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New postPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:03 pm 
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Buttercup wrote:
I'm not seeing much compassion for Amy and Mindi's coming out of your mouth.
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A long time ago, when I first started posting here, I believe I mentioned that I was sorry for their loss. However, I'm not going to go through multiple pages of posts to find it, and I also don't feel that I have to repeatedly mention it. But, just to clarify, I DO sympathize with the victim's family. I know what it's like to lose a close family member by an untimely death. Of course I feel compassion for them.


That is the only reason why your comment surprised me. Seemed a little cold for those that are grieiving for Mindi and Amy to presume "they" should be "moving on with their lives". Just didn't seem to jive with the nature of your other posts. Thats all.


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NO ONE knows as a fact that Rich had anything to do with Mindi's death--and probably never will, from what I understand. And, unless--and until--I see all the facts otherwise, then my opinion is, that's a pretty big untruth...


Hmmmmmm.... not sure what to say here as I don't want to open up a can of worms. But you do know there was evidence found that could implicate Rich in Mindi's death... do you not?


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Okay... I can't stand that cat fights. Both sides of this are going thru something horrible. I'll probably remain a lurker for a bit until the storm calms. :smile:

I don't know how to do it, but I would love to put some pressure on Anoka County to dig into Mindi's death deeper. I know they have reopened the case. Anyone got any ideas? I've even thought about writing to one of the local news stations to see if we can't get some publicity on this. Thought maybe that would put the heat on Anoka. Thoughts anyone?


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And this is why the written word must be written so carefully, so as to do our best not to misconstrue our meanings. Obviously, this has happened on both sides, here.

By "moving on", it was only meant in the context of "I think we've beaten this horse to to its full extent. The case is closed. The answers we want will never be answered to our satisfaction, no matter who tries to explain them...so let's move on". I see it as getting to the point where people are coming in and reporting hearsay, and other people making jokes and snide comments just to jab another stick at the lion in the cage.

You're right on your other point, though...I did read it wrong, and I apologize to you for that--I didn't intend to mean you, specifically. But, I still think it's sad that anyone would judge someone for someone else's actions. And, continuing on in here by slamming the Scheibe family as a whole, just proves your point.


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you do know there was evidence found that could implicate Rich in Mindi's death... do you not?


No...must've missed that somewhere along the line.


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Oh yeah....never heard of Steve Cannon, nor did I know what or where WCCO is--gotta love Google. ;)

Just being sarcastic here--and, it's totally meant in jest--but the world does not end at the Mpls/St. Paul city limits. ;)


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:grin: PT, just so you know if you take Hwy. 12 west of Minneapolis exactly 23.5 miles the world does end !


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PT60 I was told a) about the cancer story (back when Mindy passed away) and b) about the tainted pool recently (read less than 10 days) from two family members told this by a sibling of Rich. The accuracy of which I have no doubts. This I am sure dentifies some of the players which is unfortunate. But it was more unfortunate to have to deal with the lies. I just find it appalling that the lies continue in the face of such a sad situation for all. But this has been commonplace with this particular family member.

For the record I have never met a more honorable man than Rich's father, or a more caring person than his mother. If I ever could critisize them it was for not getting envoled enough in some situations, but that would be Monday morning quarterbacking and would be unfair.


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Thanks for the information, Legal Beagle. I agree that Rich's parents are both innocent victims in this and I really can't say a bad thing about either of them. I hope that they are not blaming themselves for this.

It seems like other member's of Rich's family are still believing Rich's lies. I hope they can take a step back and look at this from any other perspective to see what has happened here. Rich admitted in a court of law that he killed Amy. The words came out of his mouth. This is the first time he's told the truth in many years. I hope they can see this eventually. Otherwise their lives may be ruined like that of so many other victims of Rich's behavior.


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As everyone has already stated, it would be the most abusred thing to honestly believe that an opposing family member would have possibly tampered with witnesses. First of all, is that not also what Rich was being charged with? If anyone was tampering with witnesses why didnt his counsel bring it to the attention of the court and have them arrested as well? And then at trial use there arrests to discredit any witnesses for the state and show their bias and unbelievablilty. They did not do this because once again this is a lie. Rich pled guilty because he knew he was finally caught and no matter how much he lied and attempted to cover his ass he could not talk his way out of this one. He had finally met his match. He would rather have the opportunity to make up reasons for why he pled guilty than to sit there for weeks and let all his lies and deceit be told to 14 strangers on the jury (12 members and 2 alternates) and a room full of reporters and family. He did this in a sick attempt once again to save face and look out for number 1 (ie. himeself).

Secondly- stop for one second and look what Rich pled to. He did not get any sort of a deal for pleading guilty. So he gets the POSSIBILITY of parole after 30 years. This means nothing and guarantees nothing. If he was so sure of his innocence why would he not take his case to the jury? Worse case scenerio they find him guilty of first degree murder and sentence him to life. What would stop his attorney from arguing at the sentencing hearing that he should receive a downward departure and be sentenced to life w/possibility of parole. Why give in so easily. Why wouldnt you take the chance of getting only a second degree? The answer is an obvious one to those with comman sense and the ability to use thier critical thinking skills. In my opinion his lawyer sold him out.

I feel for all of you and completely understand the frustration that many of you feel due to the fact that people just cannot accept that Rich did do this. There is no logical reason why a man would plead guilty to a crime of this magnitude if he honestly beleived his innocence. He has a better probability of dying in prison before he is even eligable for parole. C'mon people open your eyes and face reality. Stop lying to yourself, the sooner you come to terms with the truth the sooner you can move on with your own lives and put this past you. Save your own face, the only person you are kidding is yourself.

It is tragic that this happend and I truly wish something could have been done before it reached this point. But hindsight is 20/20 isnt it. Anyways I wish you all the best of luck as you move forward in your lives and hope that everyone can find peace within themselves.


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